Friday, May 18, 2012

The New Age of Sacrifice

A gal I knew was in her mid-30s and single. She was lovely, wonderful, etc, etc, but, yeah, she was single. 

Her beloved grandfather suddenly took ill and passed away. During the shiva a guy was redt, and bing-bang-boom, a few months later they are engaged, then married. Beautiful. 

So, of course, there were those who say that her marriage came about due to her grandfather's heavenly intervention. 

Let me get this straight: In order to get married, I have to kill off my grandmother?


LL said...

Hahahahahaha this post made me laugh out loud!
PL ur a funny one!!

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of that riddle thing
"A woman, while at the funeral of her own mother, met this guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be just that! She fell in love with him right there, but never asked for his number and after the funeral, could not find him and did not know how to find him. A few days later she killed her sister. Why? - She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again.". (BTw, they say if someone thinks of that answer they think like a psychopath...)

MIghty Garnel Ironheart said...

I believe there was a "How I Met Your Mother Episode" called "The Slutty Pumpkin" that had a similar plot.

Perhaps you don't need to kill your grandmother. Instead, find a friend you're close to but whose grandmother you don't like.

%Shocked% said...

@PL: I erased my original comment as to avoid incurring your wrath, but no, I wouldn't kill anyone if I were you. That doesn't mean that there wasn't some change due to her grandfather. I'm fairly certain, but not positive, that it's in our belief system that those who passed on can intervene on our behalf (think Rochel Imeinu).

@The Professor: Oy...

@MGI: THAT's the way to go!

Princess Lea said...

My objection to the whole concept of being helped at a specific moment in time by someone who has died is by the very fact that the next world is outside time, meaning her grandfather arrived in the next world at the same time Moshe Rabbeinu is.

And as to have someone intervene in the next world to get you a spouse? Please. No one in Tanach has that issue; because God kinda wants us to marry and continue the Jewish race.

Maybe to intervene because, say, we are going in EXILE? Rochel didn't die for the express purpose of becoming someone for her children to invoke.

%Shocked% said...

(The below comment has some tongue-in-cheek at play here, but it's purely because I was in total shock at being complimented by you twice in one day ;) lol... I do hope you realize that I'm not poking fun at you with what I wrote; I just go off on these tangents and amuse myself while, hopefully, amusing you too.)

Hold up, did you learn that somewhere? That heaven exists out of time? Because that sounds suspicious. I mean bringing logic into this is a bit silly considering the topic, but that means that she (your friend) arrived in heaven at the same time too, no? And if SHE got there at the same time as he did, well, then she must have arrived at the same time, i.e. Moshe's time. But if she arrived at Moshe's time, then when did she live? And why Moshe's time? Where were the rest of the avos ubanim before Moshe chilling? Aaahhhh! My brain is going to explode!

*mini big bang* (I have an averaged size brain but there's a lot packed in there lol)...

All kidding aside, did you learn that somewhere? Because that'd mean that Hell also exists out of time, no? But isn't the whole "maximum security, torture chamber" a 12-month deal, max?

Then there's the whole "coming back in a dream" thing, which if you believe the gedolim, it's happened. Case in point, Unesaneh Tokef. He was in heaven, AND was in a world with time. Crikey!

Am I making sense here?

As an aside, ever seen smoke come off frozen pizza?? Weird!

Princess Lea said...

God exists outside of time; time is a creation. Olam HaBa, I believe, is not something bound by the natural world, since it is strictly spiritual, rather than physical, in nature.

For instance, the idea that God cannot change the future, because it happened already (funnily enough I did not grasp that concept until I read "The Watchmen.")

As for the cerebral cortex exploding when considering all this - that is why we shouldn't concern ourselves overmuch with the next world, or claim to know why things happen, or hypothesize. Because all that will end up is having our brains ooze out of our ears.

Dreams are not proof of our religion. Maybe they happened, maybe they didn't. But in the end they are not important to the basis of our faith.

I don't eat frozen pizza. But I'm guessing the frozen condensation vaporizes when it gets zapped.